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Dec 26, 2013 20:56:17 GMT
Post by Square on Dec 26, 2013 20:56:17 GMT
Doesn't look like a rematch with groves is going to happen tbh
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Dec 26, 2013 21:52:38 GMT
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Post by cl7 on Dec 26, 2013 21:52:38 GMT
it has to
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Dec 30, 2013 17:33:49 GMT
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Post by ChappyHova on Dec 30, 2013 17:33:49 GMT
Carl Froch is my hero, he doesn't have a destroyed image.
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Jan 13, 2014 15:11:33 GMT
Post by Simon on Jan 13, 2014 15:11:33 GMT
Maidana v Broner II seems to be all set for April, excellent news In less excellent news Mayweather v Khan seems to be edging ever closer, Khan has looked fairly terrible in his last 2 fights so this fight isn't nearly as exciting as it could have been at one stage. May be interesting to see how Mayweather copes with Khan's speed but under Hunter's training Khan doesn't seem to let his hands go as much, which tbh might actually be of benefit against Mayweather because he'll get counter-punched to shit if he goes all out.
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Jan 13, 2014 16:46:08 GMT
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Post by ChappyHova on Jan 13, 2014 16:46:08 GMT
I actually think stylistically it's a very intriguing matchup. Obviously everyone thinks because Khan isn't great and Mayweather is the best it will be easy but it's the styles that make it interesting.
Khan always does well against boxers because they're trying to counter punch him but he's that fast it's very hard, Mayweather has shown he takes a little time to adapt to speed in the past plus he's a bit older now.
Obviously Mayweather will win on points or a late KO but for 3-4 rounds I think Khan will shock people.
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Jan 13, 2014 23:16:24 GMT
Post by Simon on Jan 13, 2014 23:16:24 GMT
A couple of years ago I would have completely agreed with you but the way Khan has fought in his last couple of fights I feel like he's lost his greatest strength and is in danger of being a sitting duck for Mayweather to pick apart. I always thought that Khan had the speed to make Mayweather a bit uncomfortable and the way he used to attack when he was with Freddie Roach was breathtaking at times. But with Hunter he seems to be trying to cover up a lot more and only really attacks when he sees a very good opening and doesn't have the same intensity and willingness to try to overwhelm his opponents in the way he used to. Problem is, Mayweather doesn't exactly leave himself open a lot and I can see Khan getting frustrated, taking chances and Mayweather punishing him for it.
If Khan comes out with a high punch output and shows off his hand speed he could definitely ruffle Mayweather in the first few rounds, but as soon as Mayweather adapts, which he inevitably will, it's game over for Khan. The way Hunter has his fighters operate though and the way Khan has fought in his last two bouts I think he's going to be fairly cautious to begin with, which limits counter chances for Floyd but ultimately I don't think Khan can fight competently in that style, unless Hunter has managed to perform miracles on Khan's boxing brain in the last year.
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Jan 13, 2014 23:23:01 GMT
Post by The Quito Diet on Jan 13, 2014 23:23:01 GMT
All these if's and but's are why it's a good match-up though. Definitely be a hot crowd for it, Khan won't go in fearing being caught with a few shots and will be confident he can outspeed an older Mayweather.
Still go with Floyd on points all day long though.
Broner must be full of confidence (and literal confidence, not brash ticket-selling confidence) to be allowed to take that fight again. Look what happened to David Price when he tried for instant revenge.
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Jan 13, 2014 23:35:22 GMT
Post by Simon on Jan 13, 2014 23:35:22 GMT
The ifs and buts are interesting in the build up to the fight, sure, but whichever way he fights I see it being a non-event after the first 4 rounds, which is why I don't have a great deal of interest in it. A Roach trained Khan would have me really looking forward to this fight, but a Hunter trained Khan? I just don't see it going well.
Edit: Thinking about it, I'd be more interested too if this fight happened at a later date when Hunter has had more time with Khan. The last two fights Khan has really struggled with the change in style and this fight is way too soon for me. With more time to adapt to the changes and more time for Hunter to really go to work he could become a very impressive fighter again, I just feel he's still in a transitional/unstable period in his career.
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Jan 13, 2014 23:39:38 GMT
Post by The Quito Diet on Jan 13, 2014 23:39:38 GMT
The ifs and buts are interesting in the build up to the fight, sure, but whichever way he fights I see it being a non-event after the first 4 rounds, which is why I don't have a great deal of interest in it. A Roach trained Khan would have me really looking forward to this fight, but a Hunter trained Khan? I just don't see it going well. Khan can maintain his speed through to the later rounds though, I can't recall the last time Floyd had to work against someone relying on speed rather than power. Most of them have been brick walls known for being tough to break down, Khan seems to be a change from anyone he's faced in a long time.
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Jan 13, 2014 23:47:20 GMT
Post by Simon on Jan 13, 2014 23:47:20 GMT
I'm not so sure, whilst his hand speed remains quicker than most it certainly decreases especially in fights when he's taking clean shots, plus Mayweather isn't exactly slow and is phenomenally conditioned. The further the fight goes on the more it falls into Mayweather's hands for me.
Off the top of my head I'd say Judah was the last speed-oriented fighter he faced, and by the middle rounds he was completely on top of Zab and dominating him.
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Jan 14, 2014 1:58:00 GMT
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Post by ChappyHova on Jan 14, 2014 1:58:00 GMT
Khans speed definitely decreases, quite noticeably. Usually those first 3-4 rounds he's blistering and the opponent can't even see the punches then he slows.
Peterson probably the most noticeable fight and the maidana one.
Khan will win a couple of the first 4 rounds before Mayweather starts catching him with clean shots, starts walking him down and once you get Khan back pedalling its game over cause he can't fight going backwards or on the inside.
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Jan 17, 2014 18:28:23 GMT
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Post by ChappyHova on Jan 17, 2014 18:28:23 GMT
Who people got in the fight tomorrow? I fancy Bute for some reason.
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Jan 17, 2014 21:16:24 GMT
Post by The Quito Diet on Jan 17, 2014 21:16:24 GMT
The Pascal fight was what got me into following Froch in the first place, I've seen nothing of him since but if he's anything like he was then he'll walk right through Bute.
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Jan 18, 2014 0:22:03 GMT
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Post by ChappyHova on Jan 18, 2014 0:22:03 GMT
That's what most people are predicting and I wouldn't be surprised but I've just got this feeling with Pascal only fighting so much per round and Hopkins easily outboxing him that Bute might just have enough to box circles round him.
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Jan 23, 2014 19:33:45 GMT
Post by Simon on Jan 23, 2014 19:33:45 GMT
Froch has said that it's pretty much nailed on that his next fight will be against Chavez Jr. in Vegas, which has caused a huge amount of whinging from twitter because most people want the Groves rematch.
I'd be quite interested in seeing him fight Chavez tbh, the guy can be a handful and is more than willing to trade so would definitely be entertaining. Plus the rematch will always still be an option after the Chavez fight, Groves will still be as desperate then as he is now, see no reason why Froch can't fight Chavez first and then take on Groves again afterwards.
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