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Post by allah on Oct 20, 2014 19:55:19 GMT
Made a stand against what exactly? Where do you want to draw the line? I don't get this viewpoint at all... I mean if we get a choice about where to draw the line then rape doesn't seem a bad line to draw it on, does it?
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Post by Kesh on Oct 20, 2014 19:58:25 GMT
Where do you draw the line? When someone is earning X amount? When someone is known by Y amount of people?
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Post by #FreeBTS on Oct 20, 2014 20:00:00 GMT
#FreeBTS lol so me saying 90% is "a random number" but then you say you're "95% sure"... If I said 95% of fans I'd be alright then? Fair enough, I just meant I was very sure, yours seemed like you had some figures or something
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Post by #FreeBTS on Oct 20, 2014 20:02:56 GMT
Where do you draw the line? When someone is earning X amount? When someone is known by Y amount of people? Well it's not like these cases are prevalent, you can take each one as it comes
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Post by allah on Oct 20, 2014 20:03:32 GMT
Where do you draw the line? When someone is earning X amount? When someone is known by Y amount of people? Any professional football club playing within a FIFA sanctioned league should not hire a convicted rapist. That would be my line.
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Post by Kesh on Oct 20, 2014 20:06:45 GMT
Where do you draw the line? When someone is earning X amount? When someone is known by Y amount of people? Any professional football club playing within a FIFA sanctioned league should not hire a convicted rapist. That would be my line. So they could play internationals then, right?
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Post by #FreeBTS on Oct 20, 2014 20:07:11 GMT
But that rule would be alright for me
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Post by Бенне on Oct 20, 2014 20:09:51 GMT
#FreeBTS lol so me saying 90% is "a random number" but then you say you're "95% sure"... If I said 95% of fans I'd be alright then? Fair enough, I just meant I was very sure, yours seemed like you had some figures or something Alright I'll give you genuine stats. My flatmate does journalism and went to Bramall Lane on match day and asked 100 people if they wanted him back, 86 said yes. Apologies, about 86% of fans want him back.
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Post by Бенне on Oct 20, 2014 20:10:41 GMT
I regret making this thread, lovely place for people to post their faux moral outrage and get on their soapbox.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 20:12:29 GMT
So advice for all aspiring footballers isn't not to rape, it's to not get caught.
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Post by Бенне on Oct 20, 2014 20:13:37 GMT
So advice for all aspiring footballers isn't not to rape, it's to not get caught. I've seen Lee Hughes play for Notts County live, brb just going to kill someone accidentally.
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Post by #FreeBTS on Oct 20, 2014 20:18:57 GMT
I regret making this thread, lovely place for people to post their faux moral outrage and get on their soapbox. oh go on then i'll bite at this woeful post the people who've been supporting him are more vocal than those who aren't. but aye thinking someone who raped someone maybe shouldn't walk back into such a position all must be faking it because that is such a weird stance. crazy hippy feminists eh also, seen you going on a few times about the point in the above post, who has actually said that or anything like it?
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Post by Бенне on Oct 20, 2014 20:23:41 GMT
I regret making this thread, lovely place for people to post their faux moral outrage and get on their soapbox. oh go on then i'll bite at this woeful post the people who've been supporting him are more vocal than those who aren't. but aye thinking someone who raped someone maybe shouldn't walk back into such a position all must be faking it because that is such a weird stance Oh fuck right off "woeful", it was quite clearly meant with more than a pinch of salt. I can't even be arsed to argue the point any more with you quite frankly, similar to the Madeline McCann thing you seem to have to take the extreme moral viewpoint every time and it's tedious arguing when you don't take any point on board, hence my last few posts where I've given up being serious and have resorted to just having a laugh. Edit to reply to your edit: That's the first time I've even slightly hinted at it, what are you on about?
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Post by allah on Oct 20, 2014 20:25:16 GMT
Any professional football club playing within a FIFA sanctioned league should not hire a convicted rapist. That would be my line. So they could play internationals then, right? Ok then, add in any FIFA-endorsed nation (not sure on the exact term I should use here) should not call up any convicted rapist. Although I suppose to a extent we have to look at the fallibility and corruption of certain justice systems and must therefore make value judgements on the country of conviction, as a law student is there a world justice index or something like that? Regardless, I think it's worth pointing out I've not used the word allowed at any point. I don't think these should be laws we enact or anything, purely that if I owned a professional football club I certainly would not hire Ched Evans, certainly no-one convicted of rape in a UK court of law, and would then unfortunately have to consider making value judgements on the validity of other countries justice systems. And then I would also hope all other owners would do the same. Essentially, a moral rather than legal line in the sand.
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Post by #FreeBTS on Oct 20, 2014 20:35:59 GMT
oh go on then i'll bite at this woeful post the people who've been supporting him are more vocal than those who aren't. but aye thinking someone who raped someone maybe shouldn't walk back into such a position all must be faking it because that is such a weird stance Oh fuck right off "woeful", it was quite clearly meant with more than a pinch of salt. I can't even be arsed to argue the point any more with you quite frankly, similar to the Madeline McCann thing you seem to have to take the extreme moral viewpoint every time and it's tedious arguing when you don't take any point on board, hence my last few posts where I've given up being serious and have resorted to just having a laugh. Edit to reply to your edit: That's the first time I've even slightly hinted at it, what are you on about? Ah right you were being a tit then. Don't know when I've completely ignored points like, and it's consistently you who gets impatient and resorting to other things if I'm not agreeing, like you can't accept a different view. Well I'm obviously going to have these 'extreme moral viewpoints' on matters aren't I, it would be stranger if I took a liberal, non-victim blaming attitude on one subject then completely changed it for another, no?
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