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Post by Heung-Min Pleat on May 19, 2017 15:22:16 GMT
There should just be an arbitrary panel who ban Eduardo for diving against Celtic then never do anything else ever
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Post by #FreeBTS on May 19, 2017 16:30:20 GMT
Time it takes to watch a replay and feedback to the referee, even if they need to look at it 2-3 times is maybe double the time it takes to set up for a freekick or a goal kick at most, less time than it takes to celebrate a goal and set back up for kick off. They manage it in rugby within the flow of a game. Think a sin bin is the perfect scenario for that Jaffers. 10 minutes off the pitch, its more harmful to the team than a yellow card, it directly effects the team in the short-term and benefits the team you're trying to cheat against rather than some other team and it isn't as over the top as two games is. I don't see the FA having the bollocks to impose bans either under the system they are propsing, especially with high profile players, teams and games. I don't think they'd have an issue giving a Brighton player a ban, but say Hazard, for a random example of a top player, is inovlved in a situation where it's say 85% clear that it was a dive, Chelsea kick up a fuss, well how do you know he dived? He just fell over and the ref gave a penalty, he didn't make a big claim for it...he says he didn't dive, the referee judged he didn't during the match, we've got United away up next, we're on Sky, we're in a title race here and you're banning our players for two games on opinion? We challenge the decision. If they kick up enough of a fuss I doubt Hazard gets banned. 2-3 times is very generous imo, takes a lot lot longer than that for some dives, there's an absolutely huge grey area here. The problem with this sin bin solution is that you're still going to have people getting away with it, doesn't actually deter people with a punishment if they're not caught there and then.
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Post by U R GAY on May 19, 2017 16:57:17 GMT
If I was a manager who knew about the possbility of my player getting sin-binned for a dive, I would be absolutely bollocking anyone caught diving and I would be making a very heavy point of getting that 'diving culture' out of my players, which, I think, ultimately the root problem and way to get rid of it. Diving happens now because the risk/reward for doing it is +EV, right now. Therefore managers have (I imagine) encouraged it, they'd be stupid not to have been doing. Tilt the risk/reward meter of diving and slowly or maybe even quickly it will stop happening.
Same way as over the years we've slowly weaned the culture of two-footed tackles or tackles from behind out of the game - giving red-cards for a dive seems abit harsh, and as you say the area is way greyer than it is with tackles, but I do think some sort of instant reprocussion is the best way to get people to take it seriously.
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Post by The Quito Diet on May 20, 2017 9:06:02 GMT
It's just taken 90 seconds, but the referee in the Argentina England U20 World Cup game has just sent a bloke off for an elbow after reviewing the video replay at pitchside. I know that one of the big armchair arguments against technology is that it takes away from the "talking points down the pub", but if anything it'll just change the focus; people are still going to disagree with decisions even aft <iframe style="height: 360px;"> </iframe> er the referee see's a replay.
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Post by #FreeBTS on May 20, 2017 9:49:39 GMT
The argument of taking away talking points is so incredibly daft to me, can't believe there's anyone outside of the Paul Mersons of the world who genuinely think that's a reason for not implementing technology
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Post by Stu on May 20, 2017 14:38:38 GMT
Rather talk about us winning the EFL Cup this season than only having Gabbiadinis wrongly disallowed goal to discuss. Cunts.
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