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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 11:33:40 GMT
It was just banter
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Бенне
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Post by Бенне on Aug 25, 2014 12:13:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 14:37:19 GMT
I WON YES
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Бенне
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Post by Бенне on Aug 25, 2014 15:16:23 GMT
Right let's begin with some role PMs and I'll assess the role.
Maski's Role:
Standard Mafia leader role I thought. Maski did well considering how quickly his teammates got picked off, and the Randyll Tarly role claim wasn't actually a bad shout. I thought he could have maybe got away with claiming his role meant that if Robert targeted him he'd not die as like he said, he beat Robert in open combat, but would still have drawn suspicion so not much he could do in the situation he found himself in really. Got really really lucky quite early on when Bollo tried to block him, but Bollo was blocked himself by Stannis. I'll go into that during Bollo's role later though. It's obvious who he targeted each night as they died, bar Kuhn on the night Bollo managed to finally block him, but some interesting choices I thought! Struck gold with Ryan/Gregor Clegane first night, being the town's protector, but still, was always going to be difficult!
Next up is Djed's first role:
Could have been SUCH a powerful role but so high risk, so understandable Djed was cautious, especially in his first game. With Gregor protecting, and Djed's day kill, the town could have effectively had two kills per day, but alas, it wasn't to be. Wish I could have put some sort of burn them all mechanic into the role, but it's a bit too difficult I thought. Unlucky to die quite early on, as Jon Arryn/CL targeted him and found out he was King really early on, which wasn't ideal for him.
Next up is not propaganda's role:
Will go into more detail on the Kingsguard in general later on but not propaganda had a really good game I thought. He received a one shot night kill when Cersei died, which he saved for a while then used on Melisandre to end the game so really well done with that. The only man of the Kingsguard not to have some form of night kill protection, but the only one who then would receive a supplementary ability, so well balanced I thought. Some of the suggestions np came up with either in thread or in WST were quite accurate and he and Coslamp worked well off each other, with the inclusion of Djed when he was resurrected as Selmy. Good game!
Last for this section is:
Well quite a weak role for such a key character, but then there was the opportunity to become King, which brought with it it's perks which I'll mention in a sec. Tominho barely posted, and perhaps in retrospect I shouldn't have said bout him posting to say he'll be away for a bit, but as he mentioned it beforehand I thought that was only fair. Apologies if you disagree. When Djed died, Tominho's role altered to:
This gave him the ability to protect Lyanna and also ensure Lyanna couldn't join the mafia (more detail when I get to her role) but weakened the Kingsguard somewhat as if she was targeted, whichever of them protected her would die, regardless of Dayne's nightkill protection and Selmy's early invincibility. Tominho used his ability quite quickly, so Lyanna's role changed a bit, and The Kingsguard would have lost had killeripod not found Rhaegar before he was killed, which was actually quite possible at one point. Anyway, Tominho had an interesting game, the most random role claim I've seen since my own attempts in the past, but in this case, I don't really see why? He had the cushion of the extra vote needed to lynch and could have been more subtle but oh well, it all worked out. Wanted to give Rhaegar a better ability really but in the end, it was a bit hard to balance the game if I did.
Next up will be roles 5-9, probably tonight!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 15:28:45 GMT
Just so long as I can actually be Azor Ahai, Бенне m8
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 15:31:43 GMT
See that, Kingsguard would have lost without me. #mvp
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 17:35:44 GMT
Keep these write-up's going, interesting to see what was done right/wrong, player progression and all!
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Post by ange postecoslamp on Aug 25, 2014 18:08:46 GMT
Am actually intrigued to find out how my role works, my PM didn't explicitly state the nature of my unkillable ability but I got a fair idea that I had some form of it.
Managed to fight off Melisandre when she tried to kill me which confirmed my suspicions but still don't know how it worked.
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Post by ange postecoslamp on Aug 25, 2014 18:11:54 GMT
Also think I played a very rash and dangerous game at times, couple of times I brought up some stuff that I shouldn't have.
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Post by localnative on Aug 25, 2014 18:15:09 GMT
Also think I played a very rash and dangerous game at times, couple of times I brought up some stuff that I shouldn't have. There was a while were I thought you were Jon Arryn tbh
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Post by #FreeBTS on Aug 25, 2014 18:36:34 GMT
i didn't believe the kingsguard were real haha, after i came back and got maski lynched i was going to question that
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Post by Бенне on Aug 25, 2014 18:41:54 GMT
The Kingsguard for the most part won you the game to be fair, gratitude for you!
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Post by Бенне on Aug 26, 2014 10:49:02 GMT
Right then, part two of the roles round up of death. @hellas : In retrospect, giving the mafia two blockers was an overly cautious move but then my logic was town had quite a fair few abilities so it'd only be fair to give them a fighting chance of blocking some of them. Anyway Hellas' role claim has to be the highlight of the game for me, when I saw it I thought that's brave considering Mace Tyrell's in the game and I was pretty sure by that time he was Lord of Highgarden, but then I checked and found out he was dead about 300 years previous. I know the timeline isn't strictly binding but I think having 2 lords of Highgarden, one of which is from the distant past might not have been the best of claims, and eventually the town lynched him for it. Maybe check you've got the right one next time?! Although even claiming Mace would have got you lynched as local was in the game as him. Next up is ange postecoslamp : Arthur Dayne had a pretty cool ability I thought, because he was such a well renowned fighter it was always going to be some sort of night kill protection, but I thought about making it all sorts, permanent, one shot, etc but in the end I went for flip of a coin between success and failure. Coslamp therefore got lucky but more than earnt it with some of his predictions and theories I thought. Again, I'll go into that in more detail though when I go over factions as a whole and the private interactions I had with everyone. Next up is Stu : See, CHILD. Timeline not broken. It was a 50/50 between Viserys and Daenerys and I thought that he'd be the easier to put in the game with some semblance of balance rather than loading the town with powerful characters. That left Dany open to role claim, and I'd have thought with her popularity someone would have claimed that they were her with the promise of an ability if the Targs on the throne died? Maybe Hamish as when investigated he'd have come up as a woman too. But alas, she wasn't in the game, Viserys was and not a great role for Stu really. He avoided suspicion throughout by saying he knew fuck all about GoT and I presume that's true. He got Kuhn killed completely by chance, but well done as I thought he'd hidden his cult recruit quite well. Next is #FreeBTS : Another blocker, but the only one on town's side. I liked this mechanic of him distracting people with his wealth, and it actually allowed for some slight vagaries in the write up which a lot of other abilities didn't, which is nice. Bollo had a mixed game, but you can tell why he's a valued townie as people listen to him a fair bit which is a powerful thing in these games. His defence of Hellas didn't go well and local COULD have pushed for a lynch when he investigated him and got the traditional inverted alignment back, suggesting Bollo was a threat. However, he didn't and luckily for Bollo he survived to do a fair bit of good for the Town and effectively stopped Maski from killing anyone else for 2 night phases, first by blocking him and 2nd by making him finish off the job on him, which bought the rest of town some time, as I suspect without that Coslamp/notpropaganda etc would have been high on the mafia's list. Next is my favourite role from the game, @killeripod : As you can probably gather, she could have joined either town or the mafia by finding her "True love", depending on who she found first, and depending on that her ability would shift. If she found Bobby B she'd give the mafia a 2nd night kill, and if she found Rhaegar, which she did, she'd provide the town with a tracker. However, there was also Tominho's ToJ ability which was eventually used, which meant she could only search for Rhaegar, but meant she was protected from a mafia kill by the Kingsguard, one member per night. She found Rhaegar then, but because she was in the Tower, her ability became the ability to send a message to someone in the night phase via me, so that was potentially a good way to lure the mafia out, but killeripod died on the 2nd night of having that ability through Melisandre's attempted recruiting, which went around the Kingsguard protection. Think the mafia might have stood a chance with the 2nd kill and a 5th member, but wasn't to be unfortunately for them. More coming tomorrow morning probably!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 10:51:35 GMT
Ftr I meant to claim Garlan Tyrell
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Post by ange postecoslamp on Aug 26, 2014 11:48:05 GMT
Guessed that you did but that's still a dodgy claim considering how inconsequential he is as a character
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