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Post by Heung-Min Pleat on Apr 14, 2016 6:39:56 GMT
If the season ended now I don't think any of this year's holy trinity of Dier, Alli or Kane has been in our top 3 performers but they'll get the plaudits - probably 2 if not all 3 will get in the team of the year
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Post by localnative on Apr 14, 2016 8:40:35 GMT
Lloris, Alderweireld and Dembele?
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Post by Mycon on Apr 14, 2016 10:49:48 GMT
De Gea has been class as always, we've been fairly shite but he's done his job fantastically and while we have the scoring power of a relegation-threatened team, he is a big reason why we're somehow 5th and in a cup semi-final.
He was slightly better last year, but still the best in the league in my opinion and you could make the argument for best in the world since Neuer (who I like) is making way too many high-profile errors recently.
Having said that, I think Lloris is fantastic as well and there's not much between the two but De Gea shades it for me.
I'd go Mahrez and Lukaku. Several good candidates though, I'm sure West Ham fans would be happy to say Payet is several times better than Scott Parker was when he won the Football Writers but he's still going to struggle to win despite being incredible for most of the season.
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Post by Heung-Min Pleat on Apr 14, 2016 10:56:07 GMT
Yep, from a sheer consistency point of view you could throw Rose in there aswell. Stark contrast to the last two or three seasons where maybe 4 or 5 of the squad would have had good seasons and in truth carried the rest and masked over what were some players seriously not pulling their weight or playing anywhere near their best (Dembele and Vertonghen especially had two poor years each before this one). Dembele was really going through the motions because nobody really knew his role. He'd play crap and keep his spot for six weeks, play well for a game or two then get dropped for Paulinho for God knows why. I think the players know their role now, Vertonghen looks focused and settled again, Poch has shown great faith in Dembele who I didn't expect to even still be here this season and been well and truly repaid, Chadli doesn't just float about and fill in here or there, they know their roles now, Rose again another who could've been off has really repaid the manager, Walkers had his first good season for a while as well, all these things have come together at the right time and not to discredit him at all but have made Pochs work and the transformation in the team seem a lot better than the case may actually be. Depends whether you credit the manager for these players turning it round or the players themselves
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Post by localnative on Apr 14, 2016 11:07:39 GMT
I think it would be harsh not to credit Poch given how erratic rose, Walker, Dembele and Vertongen have been in recent seasons. Like you've pointed out they know what's expected of them and the team looks like a better unit for it.
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Post by MrAndyJay on Apr 14, 2016 11:52:00 GMT
Who doesn't like Lloris? I think he's absolute class but probably not as good or had as good a season as De Gea You just made my point for me in a way. I think he's underrated/divides opinion. Genuinely, I reckon if he signed for a big club that wins titles and plays CL every year instead of us he'd have been called the best in the world years ago. Nothing against De Gea or his abilities, I just think Lloris is better, and had a better season, but that's mostly bias. He'd be my Spurs player of the year by a long way despite all of the headline grabbers we've had this year. You know, it's actually really weird for me to genuinely love and trust our #1 because I dont think we've had a proper world class keeper since....... christ, probably before I was born. He's knocked Kasey Keller out of my favourite XI thats for sure.
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Post by ange postecoslamp on Apr 14, 2016 13:29:51 GMT
I think De Gea was demonstrably the best keeper in the league last season but he's not been as good this year. Had several poor games while Lloris has been as good if not better than he's ever been for us.
Genuinely think if we'd played all year with Vorm in goal we'd be 5th or worse, hardly a week goes by where Hugo makes a save that 90% of keepers wouldn't
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Post by Star of Spurs on Apr 14, 2016 13:41:42 GMT
rose and walker have been remarkably consistent for us and probably should be england's starting full backs at the euros, to me at least
my player of the year is alderweireld, purely because i've not seen a better defender here since king ledley was in his prime. although if anyone said kane, alli, lloris, dembele, it'd be hard to argue. god this has been a great season
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Post by Hogan on Apr 14, 2016 14:10:11 GMT
Joe Allen should be up there
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Post by Бенне on Apr 14, 2016 14:47:31 GMT
Michail Antonio imo
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2016 16:01:23 GMT
On the Lloris/DDG thing, Lloris has been helped by having the best centre back in the league this season in Alderwerald, Verthongen and Wimmer have both been very good too. Walker and Rose are probably the two most improved players in the league and even Trippier has looked an able deputy.
On the other hand, DDG has had to cope with having the worst right back in the league in Darmian, the worst player in the league (no hyperbole) in Rojo, a succession of youngsters and a combined trio of Phil Jones, Michael Carrick and Ashley Young at times. Only Smalling and Blind seem in any way competent.
It's not even a case that he's made look better by having a poor defence in front of him, (see Shah Given at Newcastle) because he actually doesn't concede too many goals. United would be much worse off without him.
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Post by Star of Spurs on Apr 14, 2016 16:22:06 GMT
i mean there's some hyperbole in rojo being the worst player in the league especially when libor kozak is still technically here
i think de gea/lloris is an even match, i wouldn't trade our keeper for theirs and i'm pretty sure united fans feel the same way
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2016 17:48:27 GMT
Nah Rojo would struggle to make the football team of the prison that he should be in for glassing his neighbour the dirty scruff
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Post by Mycon on Apr 14, 2016 21:25:24 GMT
I think De Gea was demonstrably the best keeper in the league last season but he's not been as good this year. Had several poor games while Lloris has been as good if not better than he's ever been for us. Genuinely think if we'd played all year with Vorm in goal we'd be 5th or worse, hardly a week goes by where Hugo makes a save that 90% of keepers wouldn't He hasn't had several bad games, he's had a few but you could probably count them in one hand. Meanwhile he's had probably double the amount of 8 or 9/10 games.
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Post by Star of Spurs on Apr 14, 2016 22:36:22 GMT
jonas won his court case against newcastle, the best thing about the article is this
"Former Newcastle boss Alan Pardew "was able to deliver his evidence in a confident, convincing and articulate way". the detail of what was said was not necessarily as credible as the manner in which the evidence was delivered". Some of Pardew's evidence was deemed to be contradictory and "inconsistent"."
that's pardew down to a fucking t
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