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Post by Ryan on Mar 9, 2015 12:24:58 GMT
Peter Moore's response "We thought 275 was chaseable. We'll have to look at the data." Fuck me lol.
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Post by Stu on Mar 9, 2015 14:04:10 GMT
Letting them get anywhere near 300 is a shambles to begin with.
Less said about our batting the better.
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Post by EdinBruges on Mar 9, 2015 14:22:49 GMT
It's like our bowlers are only any good with a dukes red ball
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Post by Бенне on Mar 9, 2015 19:44:36 GMT
In time anger will subside and I'll look at this rationally. But for now, the fact we've played an entire world cup without ONCE playing the team that we played in the warmup games is too much to handle. Fucking shambles.
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Post by Ryan on Mar 9, 2015 22:17:05 GMT
I definitely won't be changing my mind, need to sack Moores, Downton and Whittaker. Get rid of Bell, Broad and Anderson from the ODI side permanently.
Hales, Ali, Taylor, Root, Morgan, Buttler, Stokes, Woakes, Jordan, Tredwell, Finn should be the order and team for now. Give KP a chance to get into the side if he builds up some form in county cricket.
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Post by suarez on Mar 9, 2015 22:29:07 GMT
Dropping Bell and keeping Morgan would be a joke, Morgan has been absolutely pathetic for the last two years.
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Post by Ryan on Mar 9, 2015 22:35:06 GMT
I agree but can't see them changing captain again so soon. Bell has to go though, he's a test player. No room for a player who tried to build by getting 50 off 80 and then gets out. Very reason why it was confusing when Moores said they missed Trott. What they've missed is a player who can score during the middle overs.
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Post by Бенне on Mar 9, 2015 22:40:49 GMT
I have to say I agree re Morgan with both of you. Should be dropped, won't be, just like Cook all over again.
I hate to sound like a broken record but we have a player who CAN score in the middle overs to bat at three. His name's James Taylor. And he's been doing it for us every game in the build up to the World Cup, when he was then mysteriously jettisoned to 6 as a power hitter. Right...
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Post by EdinBruges on Mar 9, 2015 22:41:08 GMT
Bell's conversion rate was something like 32 50's in 155 ODI's and only 4 100's. By contrast Kohli's was 22/33 in 153.
Just entire team from top to bottom needs another look at. Think Morgan is a good captain but is in horrendous form. Need to stop trying to find a new Trott in the number 3 role, and somehow unearth an entire new bowling unit for anything other than tests which is where Anderson and Broad should be kept.
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Post by Бенне on Mar 9, 2015 22:47:40 GMT
ODI team:
Ali, Hales, Taylor, Root, Morgan, Bopara, Buttler, Woakes, Jordan, Tredwell, Finn.
That'll do.
If Morgan doesn't sort his form out, you've got plenty of young County players vieing for his place, plus obviously Bell in the wings. I'm getting furious at people suggesting this is due to a lack of talent. It isn't, it's awful management and a culture of fear throughout the team, bar Buttler. It may sound stupid but watch a defensive shot of Buttler vs a defensive shot of ANY other England player today. Everyone is so tentative, bar Buttler who absolutely has conviction in whatever shot he plays. We have one of the most talented pools for a while in our Country atm, and we're struggling so badly due to the wrong coaching staff entirely. Get rid of Saker, who I'm amazed still has a job, get rid of Moores, who's a poor Cricketing version of David Brent, and give up on Broad/Anderson who are getting past it now.
Or just hire me...
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Post by Germany's Top Scorer on Mar 9, 2015 22:49:42 GMT
Jos Bottler amirite
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Post by suarez on Mar 9, 2015 22:52:18 GMT
May as well bring back Pietersen at this stage, we've got nothing to lose.
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Post by Бенне on Mar 9, 2015 22:55:02 GMT
May as well bring back Pietersen at this stage, we've got nothing to lose. Oh god no, haha. He won't play County Cricket, he won't find form in it, it's a complete no go.
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Post by suarez on Mar 9, 2015 22:57:30 GMT
So what, I still reckon he's the most talented (raw talent or whatever) batsmen we have. I'd rather give him another chance and prove giles clarke et al wrong rather than watch Morgan struggle on. Morgan wouldn't even get into the Ireland side atm
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Post by EdinBruges on Mar 9, 2015 23:01:36 GMT
Woakes, Jordan Tredwell and Finn is the sort of bowling attack that is already giving me nightmares and that UAE would hit for 400.
Not seen enough of Moores with the test team to warrant just ridding him of the job now but Saker needed to go 2 years ago after the Finn debacle.
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