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Post by Бенне on Mar 9, 2015 23:07:03 GMT
Woakes, Jordan Tredwell and Finn is the sort of bowling attack that is already giving me nightmares and that UAE would hit for 400. Not seen enough of Moores with the test team to warrant just ridding him of the job now but Saker needed to go 2 years ago after the Finn debacle. Woakes has had a bad tournament but is a REALLY good all-rounder, need to get him to be a key part of the future of this team, same with Finn bar his well-documented troubles. Jordan has never really disappointed THAT much, and Tredwell is the best spinner atm in World Cricket that doesn't have a dodgy action or isn't Indian. Scary thought that but yeah. I just want rid of him because he's a clueless mong who thinks you'll find the answer by "looking at the data". You don't win cricket matches with 408 page cookery guides, or by looking at data, you win it with initiative and having innovative players doing innovative things. It's why I've always rated Buttler so highly, plays with so little fear. suarez He's talented aye, but he's so much more trouble than it's worth. You pick KP, you have to drop Taylor (they won't share a dressing room), you have to tread on eggshells around him and constantly nurture his precious ego. Yes he shouldn't have been dropped for whistling around in Australia and it's a complete shambles, but NOW, he's not got the runs behind him to get back into the team. Simple as that for me. Also re: Clarke etc, I would, if I could, get rid of the entire ECB board and start again. Bunch of suited up fuckmonkeys too busy shoving TV money up their rectal glands to see the sunlight.
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Post by Stu on Mar 9, 2015 23:09:06 GMT
lol there are plenty of people who need their egos massaging but you do it because their talent wins you matches
we have no one else anywhere near his talent yet we kicked him out cos he was a bit of 'hard work'
absolute bollocks, get him back in and give people a reason to go and watch England again and get someone exciting there to get other to up their game to try and replace him in the side
there is literally nothing to lose by bringing him back in after the complete shambles this world cup has been
we just lost to fucking bangladesh
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Post by EdinBruges on Mar 9, 2015 23:11:13 GMT
So you'd go in with a 3 man bowling attack and have Woakes and Ali as all-rounders? Our batting has by no means been great this tournament but our bowling has been far, far worse.
I'd not want to see KP back in any team tbh, maybe T20 at a push but I'd rather see a younger player come in. Why won't they share dressing rooms btw?
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Post by Бенне on Mar 9, 2015 23:12:17 GMT
He's nowhere near the force he was though, look at his recent form bar a few "decent" knocks in the BBL? I know we're hardly rolling in the runs ourselves atm but he's really no longer all that. He won't be some superstar winning us matches anymore, maybe a good squad player but that's it.
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Post by Stu on Mar 9, 2015 23:14:50 GMT
yeah but 20/20 is different to 50 overs
give him a chance in a couple of warm up games, if he puts a knock in then give him a chance in something more official
i struggle to see a downside in it atm, hes said himself since the comments of the future ecb bloke that he'd be willing to get back into county cricket if it means he has a chance of a return to the England side
what they cant do is then refuse to pick him if hes scoring runs cos thats just cuntish, if he scores runs at that form he has to be allowed back into the side
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Post by suarez on Mar 9, 2015 23:15:27 GMT
Ali, Hales, Taylor, Root, Pietersen, Roy, Buttler, Stokes, Jordan, Briggs, Finn is the team i'd go with.
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Post by Бенне on Mar 9, 2015 23:15:54 GMT
EdinBruges Woakes is more of a bowling all-rounder, or a bowler who can bat but aye, that works for me. Jordan, Woakes, Tredwell, Finn gives you 40 solid overs, Bopara, Root, Ali give you options and plenty of spare overs if one of the others gets spanked around early on. Solid team imo. Re: KP/Taylor, a large portion of text-gate was about KP texting the Safricans saying to massacre Taylor and how shite a batsman he is/was, which is rubbish, and it's just all escalated from there really. They can't stand each other, and KP mentions him specially in the book saying he's not a cricketer and should retire to become a jockey like his dad. cunt.
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Post by Бенне on Mar 9, 2015 23:17:38 GMT
Ali, Hales, Taylor, Root, Pietersen, Roy, Buttler, Stokes, Jordan, Briggs, Finn is the team i'd go with. I'm not saying I'm right you're wrong at all, but two questions. 1) Briggs in 50 overs? On the basis of what form? Great player potentially but nowhere near the control really needed atm imo, Tredwell is class and is so underused it's criminal, pick him imo. 2) Relying on 10 overs from Stokes is suicidal, he can do well but can get tonked to fuck. If you're going to pick him, which is fine btw, you need an extra bowling option so he can potentially only need to bowl 3/5, again imo.
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Post by Germany's Top Scorer on Mar 9, 2015 23:19:10 GMT
Ali, Hales, Taylor, Root, Pietersen, Roy, Buttler, Stokes, Jordan, Briggs, Finn is the team i'd go with. Taylor should be around 6 imo
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Post by Бенне on Mar 9, 2015 23:19:18 GMT
yeah but 20/20 is different to 50 overs give him a chance in a couple of warm up games, if he puts a knock in then give him a chance in something more official i struggle to see a downside in it atm, hes said himself since the comments of the future ecb bloke that he'd be willing to get back into county cricket if it means he has a chance of a return to the England side what they cant do is then refuse to pick him if hes scoring runs cos thats just cuntish, if he scores runs at that form he has to be allowed back into the side Aye I have to say IF he went to play County Cricket and scored a bucketload I'd want him back in the team, 100%. But he won't. he hasn't even got a county atm, and it's funny that no-one will pick him up. More trouble than he's worth.
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Post by Бенне on Mar 9, 2015 23:19:35 GMT
Ali, Hales, Taylor, Root, Pietersen, Roy, Buttler, Stokes, Jordan, Briggs, Finn is the team i'd go with. Taylor should be around 6 imo I like you Molan, but I will kill you.
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Post by EdinBruges on Mar 9, 2015 23:21:46 GMT
rofl that seems amazingly out of order and out of the blue
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Post by Bollozczkowski on Mar 9, 2015 23:22:01 GMT
Taylor at 6 definitely imo
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Post by Stu on Mar 9, 2015 23:23:30 GMT
it was less than a week since he said it lol
someone will pick him up because a KP with something to prove and the chance at England redemption and proving a lot of people wrong is a KP that anyone should want in their side
would love him back down here
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Post by Бенне on Mar 9, 2015 23:23:33 GMT
Taylor at 6 definitely imo I've grown to think you're alright too recently. But you will be next on my killing spree.
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