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Post by Бенне on Mar 9, 2015 23:24:25 GMT
it was less than a week since he said it lol someone will pick him up because a KP with something to prove and the chance at England redemption and proving a lot of people wrong is a KP that anyone should want in their side would love him back down here Aye but even if they do, I bet you he'll barely play due to his commitments elsewhere etc, and when he does play be distinctly average, just like he was for Surrey last year.
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Post by suarez on Mar 9, 2015 23:24:41 GMT
Ali, Hales, Taylor, Root, Pietersen, Roy, Buttler, Stokes, Jordan, Briggs, Finn is the team i'd go with. I'm not saying I'm right you're wrong at all, but two questions. 1) Briggs in 50 overs? On the basis of what form? Great player potentially but nowhere near the control really needed atm imo, Tredwell is class and is so underused it's criminal, pick him imo. 2) Relying on 10 overs from Stokes is suicidal, he can do well but can get tonked to fuck. If you're going to pick him, which is fine btw, you need an extra bowling option so he can potentially only need to bowl 3/5, again imo. Based on the fact he's the best young spin bowler we have imo, i'd argue the opposite, Tredwell is overrated imo. Never going to be good enough for a international team. Also I rate Stokes, I reckon all he needs is an extended run in the team and he'll be more consistent. Also pretty much all of our bowlers are getting twatted around at the moment so it doesn't really matter.
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Post by Stu on Mar 9, 2015 23:25:39 GMT
didnt he only play T20 for Surrey as well?
might be wrong on that but im sure i read somewhere the last time he played anything other than T20 was in Australia during the 5-0
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Post by EdinBruges on Mar 9, 2015 23:27:38 GMT
Stokes > Woakes
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Post by Бенне on Mar 9, 2015 23:29:09 GMT
Stu They wanted him to play County Cricket but he flat out refused and said it wasn't worth it for him. Sums him up imo. Are we suggesting KP for all formats here btw or just the ODI squad? suarez Aye Briggs has potential, but he's not ready at all imo. He gets tonked in County games at times because the control just isn't there, which is something you learn by bowling more, not by being thrown into International cricket earlier than you should be. A good year or two at Hampshire and I'm all for him, but not before. And Tredwell is a brilliant option to have, find me a game recently where he's been whacked about? Never lets you down, always offers 10 cheapish overs at the very least. The most consistent spinner we have atm. Oh and re: Stokes/Woakes debate, look at Woakes with the new ball vs India/Aus/Sri Lanka in the build up series to the World Cup. Brilliant stuff. Again, last minute role change and has suffered for it. Stokes is also hideously over-rated due to his match-winning nature. He can win you one in 10 games but he's a liability at times. Seems like an odd argument to be making as like you say we're getting spanked everywhere anyway, but he's another who just needs to hone his craft for a bit and get that consistency down I think.
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Post by suarez on Mar 9, 2015 23:32:16 GMT
Benneh's head has gone. Don't blame him tbf
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Post by Stu on Mar 9, 2015 23:33:19 GMT
yeah he refused cos there was no chance at that time of England taking him back and he decided to go and play T20 anywhere in the world instead, cant really blame him for that imo
since the England U-turn he's said he wants to play county cricket again and try to force his way back into the set up. I think it shows how much playing for England meant to him, since he doesnt need a return financially as he can earn so much more being one of the star attractions of a T20 somewhere else.
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Post by Бенне on Mar 9, 2015 23:37:53 GMT
There's no such thing as no way back in Cricket though, despite the ECB being idiots. Score tons of runs and you won't be ignored forever, just ask Taylor. If KP was serious about getting back into the team he'd commit to a County. Maybe he will this year, and prove me wrong, fair enough, but I bet you he doesn't do that well anyway.
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Post by Ryan on Mar 10, 2015 20:53:31 GMT
Like the side suarez has there but think people do underrate Tredwell, he's pretty good in the middle overs at keeping the run rate down. Only chance KP has to get in the side is if Moores, Downton and Whittaker are all gone. Not sure if that'll happen.
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Post by Rizzy on Mar 11, 2015 23:39:44 GMT
The fucking time difference is ruining the world cup for me.
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Post by EdinBruges on Mar 18, 2015 21:55:31 GMT
Just me who thinks the leaks suggesting Pietersen may be considered for England if he starts playing County Cricket and now he's agreed to play County Cricket they've come out and said he's not in their plans is a little bit cynical?
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Post by Stu on Mar 18, 2015 22:02:07 GMT
its really not fair on him, especially if he gives up more lucrative offers to just play T20 stuff abroad
shows how much he wants to get back into the set up as well, very cuntish if they dont at least consider him if he scores regularly for a county side
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Post by EdinBruges on Mar 18, 2015 22:23:36 GMT
aye, I still think his ship has sailed but it's a cuntish thing to do to lead him on and deprive him of the potential windfall of T20 competitions.
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Post by Бенне on Mar 18, 2015 22:33:30 GMT
Agreed, ECB shambles continues.
In other news, has anyone read Cook's comments today? What a self-entitled little prick. I thought he was a company man, who'd tow the ECB line but he's properly buried both them and Eoin Morgan, whilst making himself try and sound as good as possible. Really disappointed with him, not at all condusive to good team spirit and really quite selfish.
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Post by Stu on Mar 18, 2015 23:06:33 GMT
Cook in being a bellend shocker
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