Cashis
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Post by Cashis on Feb 4, 2021 20:26:11 GMT
I'm struggling to keep track with who AEW are actually working with now but it isn't half making for some interesting feuds.
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Ryan
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Post by Ryan on Feb 4, 2021 23:40:19 GMT
AEW has given a spot for people who don’t like WWE but don’t wanna watch NJPW which is great. Gotta say tho, it’s just not for me. People like Orange Cassidy don’t interest me in the slightest. Only match up I’m looking forward to in this partnership is the potential Miro matches.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2021 10:22:43 GMT
Do people genuinely enjoy AEW? I find it to be very silly and cannot take the product seriously. A lot of former WWE jobbers make up a large portion of the roster.
Their biggest name is Jericho and he is a fat old man now. He can't even execute a lionsault these days. Sad to see.
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Post by Visar Musliukas on Feb 24, 2021 16:35:05 GMT
Do people genuinely enjoy AEW? I find it to be very silly and cannot take the product seriously. A lot of former WWE jobbers make up a large portion of the roster. Their biggest name is Jericho and he is a fat old man now. He can't even execute a lionsault these days. Sad to see. What wwe jobbers are you referring to making a large portion of the roster? The stars theyve taken from WWE werent jobbers, just hilariously underbooked. WWE made Dean Ambrose a real life Bart Simpson but AEW tapped into his potential that he showed as Moxley years ago. Rusev wasnt a jobber but he also became a victim of WWE booking. FTR were champs in WWE and were still booked terribly, and they are legit one of the best tag teams in the world. Jericho when he first came into AEW as the champion was the perfect way to estabilish themselves. He has taken a step back since. Then you got Omega, Bucks, Page, Jurassic Express, Orange Cassidy, Thunder Rosa, a partnership with TNA and now NJPW? Its exciting stuff to see wrestling go back to promotions working together again. Whereas WWE have ben stagnant for years now
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Post by Blue Moon on Feb 24, 2021 16:54:13 GMT
lol bless you for replying to that
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Post by Visar Musliukas on Feb 24, 2021 17:20:20 GMT
lol bless you for replying to that criminal for me not to mention MJF aswell tbh
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Post by Slim Jim on Feb 24, 2021 18:15:14 GMT
Big Show has jumped to AEW, apparently to do commentary on their new Monday YouTube show but lots of talk about him vs Shaq in the future.
Didn’t see him being one to jump after so long in WWE.
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Post by Slim Jim on Feb 24, 2021 18:19:06 GMT
Do people genuinely enjoy AEW? I find it to be very silly and cannot take the product seriously. A lot of former WWE jobbers make up a large portion of the roster. Their biggest name is Jericho and he is a fat old man now. He can't even execute a lionsault these days. Sad to see. This is definitely the take WCW fans had in 1996 laughing at WWF for having Stunning Steve, Terra Ryzing, and Mean Mark Callous.
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Post by Heung-Min Pleat on Feb 24, 2021 20:02:55 GMT
Do people genuinely enjoy AEW? I find it to be very silly and cannot take the product seriously. A lot of former WWE jobbers make up a large portion of the roster. Their biggest name is Jericho and he is a fat old man now. He can't even execute a lionsault these days. Sad to see. This is definitely the take WCW fans had in 1996 laughing at WWF for having Stunning Steve, Terra Ryzing, and Mean Mark Callous. Don't forget Johnny B Badd whose finisher and wife would go on to be the legal property of one Brock Lesnar
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Cashis
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Post by Cashis on Feb 24, 2021 21:21:51 GMT
Fwiw I lost a lot of interest in AEW - I was never a committed watcher of it (but I do keep up to date with some WWE stuff) admittedly, but it's all gone a little bit stale for me.
Kenny Omega is being wasted slightly (although this TNA crossover and his work with Ambrose is improving), MJF is incredible and up there with Miz as one of the best at generating heat on the mic.
For me they just can't find the right balance between novelty matches and serious wrestling product.
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Post by Visar Musliukas on Feb 24, 2021 22:52:29 GMT
Fwiw I lost a lot of interest in AEW - I was never a committed watcher of it (but I do keep up to date with some WWE stuff) admittedly, but it's all gone a little bit stale for me. Kenny Omega is being wasted slightly (although this TNA crossover and his work with Ambrose is improving), MJF is incredible and up there with Miz as one of the best at generating heat on the mic. For me they just can't find the right balance between novelty matches and serious wrestling product. highly recommend watching Fenix/Omega. He has stepped it up massively since becoming champ. The tag division is their strongest point aswell. And the crossover potential with NJPW is so high
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Post by Ryan on Feb 25, 2021 9:22:28 GMT
Fwiw I lost a lot of interest in AEW - I was never a committed watcher of it (but I do keep up to date with some WWE stuff) admittedly, but it's all gone a little bit stale for me. Kenny Omega is being wasted slightly (although this TNA crossover and his work with Ambrose is improving), MJF is incredible and up there with Miz as one of the best at generating heat on the mic. For me they just can't find the right balance between novelty matches and serious wrestling product. Yeah I feel this. I was hoping for NJPW quality wrestling with Americanised story telling but it’s just a bit meh to me. Also agree Kenny has really not been booked well, he somehow doesn’t feel like the star he should be. I’d still say fair play to them because from their audience I’d say they’ve found the niche of people that were turned off WWE but didn’t want to watch NJPW.
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Post by Heung-Min Pleat on Feb 25, 2021 10:23:40 GMT
For me they just can't find the right balance between novelty matches and serious wrestling product. Yeah this sums up how I've felt for a while. They have a roster full of talent I think I could happily watch every week but the booking and direction of the show has become increasingly rougher, there are times they'll place the most serious intense angles they have going next to the most indieriffic clownish WWE-lite bollocks Since around the summer I have only been able to deal with it in highlight form on youtube. A lot of it comes down to not being able to get past the fact my eyes have been really opened in the last year to how much of a complete toolbelt Tony Kahn is, I genuinely think he's as moronic as a moron can get (and its a point I could back up with hours upon hours of writing) and I'm at a point with AEW where when I'm watching something bad or stupid I can't look past it being his fault, its a state that it took me many years of being lapsed and cynical of the business to get to with WWE but with AEW its taken barely a year I want them to succeed, I want to enjoy them and will still keep up with them on youtube, hopefully get to a point where I want to watch live again every week, there is so much talent there but being realistic I think they only ever go in the same circles with Tony Kahn as long as he is who he is. I know he's bankrolled the whole movement etc but any gratitude hes due should be earned through the level and direction of the product he's responsible for, not because hes throwing daddy's money around Also another huge stain on them has been Chris Jericho's 2020-2021 (off screen anyway), didn't think my opinion I held in that regard could nosedive so far so quickly but what a monumental dickhead he has become
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Post by Blue Moon on Feb 25, 2021 10:34:30 GMT
What’s Jericho done? He’s always been in my top 5 wrestlers of all time but I couldn’t listen to his podcast because he’s such a monumental tool.
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Post by Heung-Min Pleat on Feb 25, 2021 11:15:40 GMT
What’s Jericho done? He’s always been in my top 5 wrestlers of all time but I couldn’t listen to his podcast because he’s such a monumental tool. Among the main stuff from what I remember he was an active Trump supporter and donator, his wife and her family were part of the Capitol Building storm (this obviously isn't his doing but theres a fucktonne of associative stink that comes with that), theres the Sturgis super spreading debacle where his band headlined this motorbike rally which I think is attributed for a spike of about 300,000 Covid cases in America (again not directly his fault but again that stink isnt going to wash out) he's handled himself absolutely horribly on social media from what I gather, getting in petty arguments with people like Sebastian Bach and generally coming off them looking like an idiot, he's done stuff like vanity searching his name and got in the pettiest back and forth with fans who've mentioned his weight and stuff like that (thats what I gather anyway I only get twitter bullshit second hand). And as for his podcast like you say he's been tooling it up, giving way too much airtime to the worst kind of pie in the sky basement conspiracy theorists and Trump supporters and even Trumps kids. On screen he's maybe done a few tittish things but generally still been great, I think maybe the real Chris Irvine has always been a prat and I'm just late realising it tbh
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