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Post by Olivier on Oct 17, 2019 14:11:44 GMT
Check out the difference between that headline and the second line showing what he actually said. The BBC, people.
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Post by notpropaganda on Oct 17, 2019 14:50:32 GMT
This is essentially the same deal but the bogeyman of the backstop is replaced with something even worse in the eyes of the DUP - majority rule in NI. Majority rule means actually engaging in the democratic process and maybe compromising in order to govern, but you can't be giving them taigs any sniff of weakness
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Post by you give me rrrroad rrrrage on Oct 17, 2019 21:40:56 GMT
Fucking hell.
Also, got horrible feeling this will pass on Saturday.
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Post by Olivier on Oct 18, 2019 7:09:00 GMT
Holy Shit It's easy to negotiate a deal that only 1 side agrees with. Fucking hell how little a grasp of reality does this cunt have? An "impartial" BBC journo putting that out. Fucking hell. Have seen suggestions that even if the deal is passed in Westminster this weekend that the government, or hard-brexiteer Tories (MPs or Lords), could cause disruption to parliament proceedings next week in order that there is insufficient time to get all the required legislation through before Oct31 which would see us crash out with no-deal. Could also tie in with why parliament has been called for an extra session on Saturday instead of today? Tbh I think he'll get the votes he needs tomorrow's either through Labour MPs voting for it or enough of them abstaining. This would have to be Labour MPs in safe seats in Leave areas looking out for themselves as it would guarantee a Tory win in the upcoming election in any close run constituencies. SNP have lodged an amendment calling for the deal to be rejected, an extension to Jan31 and a General Election in that time. Labour will probably put their own amendment forward to get an extension to push this deal to a Deal v Remain referendum.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2019 7:56:32 GMT
Travelling to Prague next month. How much is the pound gonna be affected by this? Haven’t changed my money yet and don’t wanna sell myself short.
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Post by you give me rrrroad rrrrage on Oct 18, 2019 9:18:11 GMT
If the deal doesn’t pass can it come back without an extension?
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Post by Olivier on Oct 18, 2019 13:04:59 GMT
If the deal doesn’t pass can it come back without an extension? Don't think there's time before Oct31. The PMs plan has been leaked. This "deal" would require the government and the EU to agree a trade agreement by the end of 2020. Michael Gove, according to leaks, has said the government has no intention of making this agreement and the UK would crash out with no deal. So in effect this "deal" gets them through Westminster bit then they can sit out a year and get what they want. They're offering this to hard Brexiteers to get their votes tomorrow.
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Post by Exonerator on Oct 18, 2019 14:23:43 GMT
Travelling to Prague next month. How much is the pound gonna be affected by this? Haven’t changed my money yet and don’t wanna sell myself short. I've just come back from Prague, was 28kr to £1 then.
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Post by ange postecoslamp on Oct 18, 2019 15:11:01 GMT
£ is the best it's been in a while. If the deal passes parliament it will get stronger, if it doesn't then it will fall back to where it was
It's really difficult for me to still force the energy to be passionate about Brexit, knowing I'm fortunate enough to not be affected significantly by it makes it so tempting to fall into apathy, as such I'm not sure whether I'd prefer the deal to pass or not.
Just as long as the Tories dont win a GE off the back of it.
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Post by Olivier on Oct 18, 2019 16:20:23 GMT
If the deal passes the Tories will walk the next election. For Boris to go into that having renegociated with the EU and got Labour MPs onboard to fulfill his outlandish "over my dead body" promise Would be unstoppable.
If Labour MPs help this deal go through Corbyns position has to be in question.
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Post by The Quito Diet on Oct 18, 2019 16:53:54 GMT
I'd they reject it he walks it - they're already selling it as a miracle deal.
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Post by Olivier on Oct 18, 2019 16:57:41 GMT
I'd they reject it he walks it - they're already selling it as a miracle deal. I can't see that happening tbh. Even if he doesn't actually have anything else up his sleeve and he has to bow down and accept an extension from the EU he'd still fancy himself in a General Election against Corbyn.
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Post by you give me rrrroad rrrrage on Oct 19, 2019 9:37:04 GMT
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Post by you give me rrrroad rrrrage on Oct 19, 2019 13:57:22 GMT
Letwin Amendment passes so the Benn Act has kicked in and the government has to send a letter asking for an extension.
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Post by you give me rrrroad rrrrage on Oct 19, 2019 14:48:41 GMT
Absolutely don’t expect this to happen but it would be fucking hilarious if it did.
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