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Post by sween on Mar 4, 2016 15:44:29 GMT
Implying she was bragging about fucking johnson to anyone that would listen when in reality she probably told a couple of people she was meeting him for a signed shirt, they've put 2+2 together when this news broke and spread it around school or wherever
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Post by The Quito Diet on Mar 4, 2016 15:48:32 GMT
I'm sure one of the witnesses was a school friend who said she'd seen whatsapp messages between the pair as well as a video the girl took whilst in the car.
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Post by ChappyHova on Mar 4, 2016 15:57:52 GMT
What did Gary do lol
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Post by The Quito Diet on Mar 4, 2016 16:02:48 GMT
"G7lfc LOLs at this" on every single post of mine. Shite mood today and I'm biting at everything
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2016 16:16:37 GMT
some 15 year olds are fit though
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Post by sween on Mar 4, 2016 16:27:51 GMT
Thanks for the input paul
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2016 16:38:32 GMT
I'm just cooking I've got an actual opinion on this just wanted to get that out there
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2016 17:24:48 GMT
I don't think either side is innocent in this. Johnson is defo the most culpable, you can't go round sticking your fingers in people you know are underage, and if you're going to at least don't start conversations with fellow adults about the age of consent. I don't care about his conduct in court, I don't expect him to apologise or show remorse for doing shite with a 15 year old, he knows it's wrong but he's clearly not sorry.
As for the girl, she needs to take some responsibility here. 15 is old enough to know what's right and wrong and she probably didn't think of the consequences at the time but same goes for Johnson, but when all is said and done she could easily have recognised what was going in very quickly and nipped it in the bud. Once Johnson is texting her that's when she should have reported it to the police or to a parent but she willingly got involved with him and therefore she isn't absolved, imo.
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Post by Бенне on Mar 4, 2016 17:34:13 GMT
The age of consent isn't there because 16 is when you can figure out what's right and wrong, it's an arbitrary (to some extent) age placed to designate when the majority of people will be mature and learned enough to make their own decisions in a legal sense.
She's under that age, so regardless of whether in this particular case she's a manipulative bitch or an innocent victim, legally it makes very little difference, and quite rightly imo, because the alternative would open up a humongous can of worms. Not really in response to anyone in particular, just some thoughts.
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Post by FL on Mar 4, 2016 17:45:03 GMT
I've no idea when she turns/turned 16 but if she was nearly 16 and he'd wait til she was then it's weird to think that this wouldn't be a case at all, basically means the government and what have you dictate when you're old enough as such. Not that i'm in any way condoning it.
Also think it's strange that he fingers her, she sues, and then they're like "here have some money, that'll make it better" lol
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Post by ic on Mar 4, 2016 17:58:43 GMT
Debating over a deleted daily mail article
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Post by Stu on Mar 5, 2016 14:53:59 GMT
I'm sure one of the witnesses was a school friend who said she'd seen whatsapp messages between the pair as well as a video the girl took whilst in the car. messages about just meeting him to get the shirt signed and a video of him signing it, or messages and videos of the 2nd meeting? cos im fairly sure if it was the 2nd meeting and she had videos on her phone of it he'd have been going down for it without her needing to give evidence via video link in court...
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Post by The Quito Diet on Mar 5, 2016 22:24:48 GMT
Not sure but videos weren't of him, they were of his dashboard but could hear them both talking.
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Post by jaffers on Mar 6, 2016 2:21:09 GMT
He's a fuck, and he knowingly took advantage of somebody who is wildly out of her depth. The position of power his 'celebrity' and her being a big fan of his (I mean I'm shocked he had a fan to begin with) always meant it wasn't a straight forward case of 'is 15 that bad when 16 is the legal age?'. The sheer relationship of her thoughts towards him, is a very adult situation to be in, and 100% nothing a 15 year old is going to have come across before. He has to know better, like I'm sure it's not the first time a fan or something has approached him and there's been the potential for sexual shit to happen. Like he's going to be aware he's in a position where that kind of thing is going to be an option for him very easily, and as such really needs to have not taken advantage of it. Also, with the age of consent for most when you're fucking at 15/16 it's with people your same age. So there's no real person who is in a massive position of power (unless it's an abusive relationship obv). So I'm not a fan of the '15 isn't so bad because it's so close to the legal age' argument. I do think he probably is sorry, and does feel an immense amount of guilt about it, but that doesn't excuse anything of what he did. He'll probably get a lengthy sentence but be out in a few years, in all reality though their lives are both fucked. He's always gonna have this shit around him, and she will also have this hanging around her. For sure the rest of her teenage years at school/6th are going to be a fucking nightmare for her.
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Post by cl7 on Mar 24, 2016 12:30:38 GMT
Stripped of his 12 England caps by the FA. What's the point ? Also, interesting precedent to set.
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