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Post by Cashis on Dec 16, 2013 21:24:41 GMT
Who said it was about making him look good? It was about showing people what Andy Murray is like away from tournaments, away from press conferences, actually providing an insight into him. Echo the sentiments about his mother though. It was on the BBC and it wasn't meant to make him look good? C'mon lol.. it was around the time of Wimbledon, very much still one of the BBC's favourite annual events it's obviously in their interests to whip everyone up into a frenzy and make Murray out to look a fantastic guy everyone should get behind. It had no chance of being impartial, the whole thing was essentially a total wankfest. I don't really care about him either way btw but that documentary was an obvious PR exercise. It was meant to provide more access to him, that it shows him in a good light should speak of what he's like as a person not the objective of the documentary. Moaning about it not being impartial lol, were you expecting Paxman to appear whilst he was crying about Dunblane and ask him if he felt like a failure and should have done more? Did the BBC use the documentary to boost their Wimbledon coverage? No doubt. Did the documentary show a side to Murray most weren't aware of. Definitely. Is that a bad thing? Not in my eyes.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2013 21:32:00 GMT
No not at all but they could've interviewed one of the three coaches Murray sacked? Could've had somebody on there to go.. 'you know what, Murray, yeah he's a bit of a wanker really'. That would've been 'behind the racket', for sure. Clearly the BBC were more interested in close-ups of him hugging his dog.
Just wouldn't read too much into that personally. I'm sure he'd be a great guy to go for a pint with... lol.
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Post by Gianni Infantino on Dec 16, 2013 21:48:44 GMT
Murray showed his personality in those mixed doubles last year at the Olympics. Clearly the driving force behind the pair and was constantly encouraging Robson. If he was really the gloomy person people think he is, he wouldn't have even made an effort with her, just kicked off when she struggled.
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Post by Maskya Yoshida on Dec 16, 2013 21:52:03 GMT
The British public prefers to plucky loser than the man who is successful. Sad really. If being a multiple grand slam winner and winning the biggest slam of them all this year makes him a "plucky loser", what would make him a winner? Also people can bugger off. When he tried to show personality when he was younger (eg joking with Tim Henman about football) he was blasted by the media and some of the English hated him after it was reported wrongly, its those same people now who are moaning about him having no personality that also gave him it tight back in 2006. I dont blame him for not being open and being reserved in interviews after what happened. You mong. im saying the british public dont like him cause he is a winner. cause the brits are stupid
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Post by cl7 on Dec 16, 2013 22:04:56 GMT
turned it on to see carl fucking froch and thought he'd won at first.... just as well. bastard. love the cheer groves got again.
Murray walked it on voting I imagine. was never gonna be anyone else, rightfully so.
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Post by Cashis on Dec 16, 2013 22:36:00 GMT
No not at all but they could've interviewed one of the three coaches Murray sacked? Could've had somebody on there to go.. 'you know what, Murray, yeah he's a bit of a wanker really'. That would've been 'behind the racket', for sure. Clearly the BBC were more interested in close-ups of him hugging his dog. Just wouldn't read too much into that personally. I'm sure he'd be a great guy to go for a pint with... lol. Why do you assume any of those people would say he's a wanker though? There's been literally no bad words said about him from anybody who's worked with him, or competed against him. Mark Petchey is frequently laughing and joking with Murray when he does Sky's coverage. Maclagan has had pretty much nothing but positives to say of him, Gilbert is the only one who may have anything 'interesting' or contrasting to say but even then anything remotely negative (about how Murray doesn't drink, is entirely dedicated to tennis and spends his free time analysing opponents or playing video games) is nothing that people speak about him positively for as well. Would that be showing the close-up of him hugging his dog as he breaks down in trying to talk about his memory of Dunblane? I mentioned the documentary merely as an example of what Murray is like away from Tennis, press conferences etc, you're going on as if I'm solely using it as not only the foundation of my view of him but as if I'm telling you all to do as such too. There've been several other tv interviews or press conferences I could have cited, but no doubt given you've already made your mind up about him you'd find a way to suggest they were biased in showing him in a positive light.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2013 22:57:41 GMT
I'm not some sort of authority on Murray but I'd assume in any sort of proper behind the scenes documentary you'd have some contrasting views. It was all just major arselicking from start to end. Gilbert being on there saying he's boring would be a start.
Don't think so, the dog came across as having more about it than Murray in fairness.
And I was only saying the BBC documentary the week before Wimbledon probably wasn't the best source on Murray. Not sure how you've come to the conclusion I've made my mind up about him either, I've already said I don't really care enough about tennis/him either way. The bandwagon sort of winds me up, how everyone is clamouring to make him look a nice guy now he's winning things also does a bit, when no one gave a toss when he was shite, but that's life.
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Post by Cashis on Dec 16, 2013 23:09:33 GMT
I'm not some sort of authority on Murray but I'd assume in any sort of proper behind the scenes documentary you'd have some contrasting views. It was all just major arselicking from start to end. Gilbert being on there saying he's boring would be a start. Don't think so, the dog came across as having more about it than Murray in fairness. And I was only saying the BBC documentary the week before Wimbledon probably wasn't the best source on Murray. Not sure how you've come to the conclusion I've made my mind up about him either, I've already said I don't really care enough about tennis/him either way. The bandwagon sort of winds me up, how everyone is clamouring to make him look a nice guy now he's winning things also does a bit, when no one gave a toss when he was shite, but that's life. It wasn't meant as a proper behind the scenes, warts and all documentary. I was surprised they got as much access as they did tbh, and it's not like they focused on just asking close friends what they thought, they had notable characters that the general public could relate to (Nadal, Federer, Djokovic, Agassi, McEnroe) giving their opinions and again, these are people who've been around him on a regular basis since he was a teenager, they had nothing negative to say. I've not presented it as the best source though, I used it as an example to follow up my main point about seeing more from him than just interviews. How can you not understand why I think you've made your mind up on him when you're coming out with comments like ''the dog came across as having more about it than Murray in fairness''? I agree about the bandwagon, but for both sides. It's always been tiresome having people shoot him down for being 'boring', claiming he 'hates England' etc. However as somebody who's followed him somewhat passionately for several years now I take a begrudging liking to the bangwagon speaking him up because it feels like he's getting the recognition he's deserved for years, I know Jimbo/Maski have said the same previously.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2013 9:36:38 GMT
Well 'behind the racket' for me was anything but, apart from relentlessly trying to make out Murray was a nice guy a week before Wimbledon I'm not sure what it hoped to achieve.
I know you haven't presented it as the source but you chose to present it as a source, I'd find it difficult to find anything to show the true personality of such a sportsman on the tele anyway. But he did come across as boring, to me, and the dog comment was tongue in cheek but honestly not that far from the truth. I haven't made my mind up about him but based on the little I've seen he does seem boring. Nothing wrong with that, because I'm sure most sportspeople that are that good at something are, just don't see the need to get so defensive about it.
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Post by jambo on Dec 17, 2013 17:55:36 GMT
What is your source that he is boring Johnny?
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Post by ic on Dec 17, 2013 21:14:09 GMT
Every interview in the last 5 years
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