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Post by Liverpool_96 on Feb 7, 2016 2:04:21 GMT
true though isnt it? bit late for everyone to give a shit now. plus im not having kids so the future of the planet is of no concern to me, i'll be dead. dont think l96 gets that being vegan isnt just a different diet. but i cba trying to talk to someone whos more interested in their 'goals' then their apparent health, for now at least. enlighten me then bro. is it gonna change my whole outlook on life? am I gonna be a man reborn?
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Post by Cashis on Feb 7, 2016 2:08:31 GMT
true though isnt it? bit late for everyone to give a shit now. plus im not having kids so the future of the planet is of no concern to me, i'll be dead. dont think l96 gets that being vegan isnt just a different diet. but i cba trying to talk to someone whos more interested in their 'goals' then their apparent health, for now at least. enlighten me then bro. is it gonna change my whole outlook on life? am I gonna be a man reborn? I dunno about whole outlook on life but you'd probably look at things a bit differently. But then you end up going down the "why do governments lie to us and tell us that certain food are good or integral to our lives and health when they aren't?" route and then you realise you've been lied to since the day you were born by your teachers and parents who don't know any better and who were also lied to. And it gets very dark and shit and you realise how hopeless trying to fight things are and if I'm honest if you want to live a happy (yet anaesthetised) life you're best off not delving beneath the surface. Take milk; for a cow to produce milk it has to be pregnant. Thus begins the forced impregnation of millions upon millions of cows via artificial insemination (putting a rod into a cow's minge full of semen whilst you've got your fist in her arsehole) - cow becomes pregnant, you get milk, if the give birth to a boy it's shipped off to the veal industry if it's a girl she becomes a rape slave milk machine like her mum. I mean, what the fuck? Nobody thinks about that as they innocently drink their glass of milk or top up their protein shake.
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Post by sween on Feb 7, 2016 2:12:51 GMT
more power to vegans and that but you don't half sound like a conspiracy nutter in this thread cashis
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Post by Liverpool_96 on Feb 7, 2016 2:15:39 GMT
yeah I don't think I'd ever look into it like that Cashis cos it'd make me depressed as fuck about the whole thing. I'd just do it for my own health and look the other way to be honest with you. I'm not gonna influence anything by becoming vegan myself and the money involved in the whole meat and dairy industry will ensure it stays the way it is.
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Post by Cashis on Feb 7, 2016 2:20:19 GMT
more power to vegans and that but you don't half sound like a conspiracy nutter in this thread cashis Which parts do you disagree with? Saying we've been told since young that we have to eat meat for protein and eat milk to make our bones strong (both incorrect, they aren't *needed* at all) isn't conspiracy bullshit, that's literally what happens around the world. Meat and dairy companies will pay the government money to pass this info off in schools as fact, it makes perfect sense doesn't it? It keeps us indoctrinated in a fluid system of seeing slaughter and rape as necessary things to keep us "healthy". I'd rather be someone who tries to have a think about why these things happen and why things that are seen as the norm have been made that way that one of the fucking brain dead flids you see day in day out worried about their next pay cheque or how their new shake diet is going or how many likes they're gonna get on Instagram. Look at the health and fitness industry, thousands of thick self centred cunts causing body dysmorphia issues for everyone and anyone so they can sell their own dogshit products so you can "look like them" (they're all on steroids and also have all day to train and cook) whilst also bad mouthing anyone who dares go against meat/dairy/supplementation. By dismissing these thoughts as "conspiracies" you're actually doing someone else's work for them. Watch Cowspiracy.
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Post by Бенне on Feb 7, 2016 2:21:55 GMT
I think the "why should I care? I'm not having kids so it's no bother" attitude of Stu's is shared by a lot of people sadly, and it's probably largely contributing to why the planet's in the state it's in. This "look after your own" attitude is grand, but when the balance of resources is skewed as largely as it is in favour of a small majority, there's a real issue.
Perhaps slightly off the vegan topic like, but it's something that concerns me.
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Post by Hogan on Feb 7, 2016 2:24:19 GMT
Stay out of this Benneh, you could get hurt.
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Post by Бенне on Feb 7, 2016 2:25:13 GMT
Am I missing something?
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Post by Cashis on Feb 7, 2016 2:29:16 GMT
I mean, you don't realise how many people in the office I work in sell bee pollen pills or aloe Vera stuff or Avon products or do juice plus or do shake diets or have FRUIT TABLETS.
These are the fucking idiots who need their heads shaking, not someone trying to educate themselves on issues that aren't common knowledge.
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Post by jaffers on Feb 7, 2016 2:30:47 GMT
It's true, but I lost my shit at cow rape slave.
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Post by Stu on Feb 7, 2016 2:32:03 GMT
more power to vegans and that but you don't half sound like a conspiracy nutter in this thread cashis Which parts do you disagree with? Saying we've been told since young that we have to eat meat for protein and eat milk to make our bones strong (both incorrect, they aren't *needed* at all) isn't conspiracy bullshit, that's literally what happens around the world. Meat and dairy companies will pay the government money to pass this info off in schools as fact, it makes perfect sense doesn't it? It keeps us indoctrinated in a fluid system of seeing slaughter and rape as necessary things to keep us "healthy". I'd rather be someone who tries to have a think about why these things happen and why things that are seen as the norm have been made that way that one of the fucking brain dead flids you see day in day out worried about their next pay cheque or how their new shake diet is going or how many likes they're gonna get on Instagram. Look at the health and fitness industry, thousands of thick self centred cunts causing body dysmorphia issues for everyone and anyone so they can sell their own dogshit products so you can "look like them" (they're all on steroids and also have all day to train and cook) whilst also bad mouthing anyone who dares go against meat/dairy/supplementation. By dismissing these thoughts as "conspiracies" you're actually doing someone else's work for them. Watch Cowspiracy. isnt that exactly what you done with ketosis? lol
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Post by jaffers on Feb 7, 2016 2:36:16 GMT
We are a pest though, no question about that. We are not good for the environment we live in. We've become scarily over populated, to the point where the planet can't naturally provide for us. So we fuck with it on an insane level. We currently consume an unnatural amount of meat, an amount we flat out were never meant to. Grains were pretty much natures intended staple of our diet, with meat added in but not on a fuck off scale. Think the hunter gather mentality, that's literally what we're supposed to be. We majority overachieved what we were supposed to be though, bitter sweet victory really.
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Post by Cashis on Feb 7, 2016 2:37:45 GMT
Which parts do you disagree with? Saying we've been told since young that we have to eat meat for protein and eat milk to make our bones strong (both incorrect, they aren't *needed* at all) isn't conspiracy bullshit, that's literally what happens around the world. Meat and dairy companies will pay the government money to pass this info off in schools as fact, it makes perfect sense doesn't it? It keeps us indoctrinated in a fluid system of seeing slaughter and rape as necessary things to keep us "healthy". I'd rather be someone who tries to have a think about why these things happen and why things that are seen as the norm have been made that way that one of the fucking brain dead flids you see day in day out worried about their next pay cheque or how their new shake diet is going or how many likes they're gonna get on Instagram. Look at the health and fitness industry, thousands of thick self centred cunts causing body dysmorphia issues for everyone and anyone so they can sell their own dogshit products so you can "look like them" (they're all on steroids and also have all day to train and cook) whilst also bad mouthing anyone who dares go against meat/dairy/supplementation. By dismissing these thoughts as "conspiracies" you're actually doing someone else's work for them. Watch Cowspiracy. isnt that exactly what you done with ketosis? lol What, four years ago? Yeah, probably. Less than a year ago I'd have told my current self to fuck off if I was talking about vegan stuff too.
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Post by sween on Feb 7, 2016 2:39:51 GMT
tbh i came to this thread for a laugh and now i'm having an existential crisis. fuck this gay earth
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Post by Stu on Feb 7, 2016 2:40:10 GMT
haha fair enough
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