Olivier
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Post by Olivier on Sept 20, 2014 23:24:33 GMT
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Post by The Quito Diet on Sept 20, 2014 23:25:19 GMT
The only people who're likely to come out of this any better than they are now will be middle to upper class Tory voters.
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jambo
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Post by jambo on Sept 20, 2014 23:40:31 GMT
what will be will be, give it time, it wont affect our lives anyway
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Post by shaunie on Sept 21, 2014 0:28:29 GMT
Really don't think Labour will be hit as bad as you're suggesting tbh, they'll still retain a large core of their support from the elderly and the lifelong Labour voters, but they stand no chance (as do any of the other UK parties) or attracting any of the youth I'm from an area that was completely destroyed by the last Tory government and in which Labour has an incredible stronghold, yet I would be genuinely surprised to see Labour win their seat for here in the next general election. And that's based on many people I know, young and old, saying they will never vote Labour again.
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Post by Maskya Yoshida on Sept 21, 2014 7:44:03 GMT
Just vote Labour so the Tories don't get in you useless Scottish cunts.
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Post by shaunie on Sept 21, 2014 12:56:48 GMT
Even if we did, it wouldn't make a difference to the eventual outcome. Also no, because fuck Labour
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Post by Star of Spurs on Sept 21, 2014 13:00:07 GMT
you have 40 labour mp's, it should make some difference
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Post by The Quito Diet on Sept 21, 2014 13:07:58 GMT
Labour would get a majority government for the UK with Labour MP's in Scotland, but with devolved powers it would mean they would not have a majority government in Scotland (SNP), possibly Wales (Plaid Cymru), not a clue about NI and not in England either (Tory). So there'd be a government in charge who couldn't actually pass any laws or legislations to healthcare, education, welfare, immigration due to this devolution. That is why Milliband doesn't want to agree with Cameron's rushed UKIP policy of ENGLISH VOTES FOR ENGLISH MP'S because he knows it would practically make the Labour party redundant in office.
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Post by Olivier on Sept 21, 2014 14:28:01 GMT
In general I agree that Scottish MPs shouldn't be able to vote on matter which involve only England/Wales/NI. The problem is so many of the "devolved" powers Scotland has are linked to things which affect those countries. For example, the "tax raising powers" proposed for Scotland are only an allowance to increase taxes by up to 4% above the rest of the UK. If we don't have any say on the UK taxes as a whole then we are infact losing more power and control than we are gaining.
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Post by notpropaganda on Sept 21, 2014 19:04:23 GMT
lol Labour in NI
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Post by notpropaganda on Sept 21, 2014 19:04:55 GMT
lol any party not DUP/sinn fein in NI
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 19:10:26 GMT
We're hijacking the Scottish Independence thread, ffs.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 19:20:40 GMT
I personally would love to see a united Ireland in my lifetime.
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Post by notpropaganda on Sept 21, 2014 19:24:10 GMT
Aye it'd be nice but really how different would it be
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Post by notpropaganda on Sept 21, 2014 19:24:41 GMT
I'm all emotional after the game soaybe ignore me but I fuckin love Ireland
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