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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 17:48:43 GMT
1000 iq play from jomez, take a dangerous situation and make it less dangerous by letting them do that
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Post by luisgarciaisgod on Sept 7, 2020 4:53:59 GMT
Making a concious effort to support the Irish team and plan to start to start going to games when things open up etc.. but fucking hell the team is in some state at the moment and appointing a manager who's biggest profile job was getting Dunfirmiline relegated I don't see working. Trying to implement a passing game with a pool of mediocre players isn't going to work either
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Post by notpropaganda on Sept 7, 2020 9:25:37 GMT
tbh I'd rather see us passing it about poorly for 10 games on the chance we'll improve our style and get young players experience at international level rather than watch the same turgid crap of the past 4 years. There's been so many deflating nights in the south stand under MON and McCarthy with the exact same style, pass to full back and hoof it long, hope for free kick or corner, rinse repeat. Performance against Bulgaria was miles better than against Finland without a doubt, even if we'd lost to Bulgaria I'd have been just frustrated at losing rather than frustrated with the performance. Their goal came from just really shit defending but other than that we dominated the ball and played some ok stuff. Finland could've had 3 or 4 though, and we looked poor. Even saying that, Duffy again had a big chance to draw it towards the end. I liked Idah up top, I thought he did pretty well considering they were his first two senior international starts.
I also like Molumby but I felt the game passed him by last night. The centre midfield is a bit of a problem at this point because I don't really trust Hendrick and Brady anymore, we've had four years of turgid performances from them. They're obviously talented and maybe with Kenny trying to implement a new style they might excel, but it's hard to trust them. McCarthy and Arter have lots of endeavour but not much quality and if Kenny wants a passing game, he really needs a midfielder who will come and demand the ball off the centre-backs instead of pointing to whoever is free. All this is with the caveat of it being practically pre-season - Brady looked out on his feet from about 70 minutes last night.
I'd also really like to see him try a 3-5-2 with something like this:
Randolph
Coleman - Duffy - Egan
Doherty----------------Stevens
?? - Molumby - Hourihane (?)
Connolly - McGoldrick (Idah/Parrott)
I think just because Coleman and Doherty are arguably our best players, and I'm not convinced that Doherty as right back in a four gets the best out of him. This also gives Connolly the chance to play up top with a partner, which he does at Brighton rather than on the left of a three (though he's done ok there for us and played there for the U21s). Again midfield is a problem but if you've the wing backs I think you can afford to have someone like O'Dowda as part of that midfield three to push up and support the front two, with Molumby and Hourihane (or whoever else) to sit a little deeper. Just something I'd like to see at least tried out but from the sounds of it Kenny really wants to stick with 4-3-3.
Also you can have valid reservations about Kenny but I think highlighting his "Biggest profile" job rather than his biggest achievements with Dundalk in Europe is a bit unfair. I think the profile of the Ireland job isn't really a problem, you've a couple of former players throwing some petty shots at him already but I think the vast majority of the Irish media will give him time before applying the usual media pressure tbf, so in that regard I think the profile of it won't impact him.
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Post by luisgarciaisgod on Sept 7, 2020 9:58:49 GMT
I think you have to adjust your tactics to what you have at your disposal, passing from the back for example. Shane Duffy has just bombed out of Brighton simply because he's not good enough on the ball. How long do you stick with with what you believe in before it comes to the detriment of the team?
3-5-2 i think is a must going forward. Both Doherty (I'm not sure how he's gonna fit into Spurs system with 4 at the back) and Stevens both look more comfortable as wing backs and McGoldrick can't play as the lone striker in a 4-1-2-2-1. He's a perfect foil in a supporting role but he's a bit of anti striker regarding his attacking prowess.
Little bit concerned about the lack of inclusion of Michael Obafemi too, no idea really why he wasn't picked.
And point taken about the Dundalk/Dunfermiline thing and there's no doubt what a wonderful job he done there but Dundalk were semi pro for part of the time he was there.In terms of prestige the Dunfermiline job was bigger.
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Post by notpropaganda on Sept 7, 2020 10:51:08 GMT
Agree with all that really, I worry that Kenny may be a bit ideologically stubborn but as I think this is a longer term project. I know we have the playoff next month but being honest, I didn't see us qualifying for the Euros under Mick either. I've seen some say it'll be a disaster if Kenny doesn't get us qualified but I don't really see a difference in circumstances (people have also cited Dublin being a host city for the Euros but I also think people are being a bit optimistic that the Euros will go ahead in that same format given the pandemic).
Yeah I was disappointed Obafemi wasn't called up, especially once Parrott pulled out injured. Kenny was asked about it at his first presser and he said it's because he wants to play 4-3-3 and Obafemi doesn't play as a lone striker up top, and hasn't played wide before. But I thought it was a bit of a strange answer personally, he's got electric pace and that's something we've sorely lacked for a long time. I like O'Dowda but I don't see how you can claim he's a better fit at the right of a front three than a Premier League striker.
Also forgot to mention Jack Byrne in my initial post, though from reading through the ybig forum he has apparently not been in great form since LOI started up again. But he's the style of player that's definitely needed in that midfield imo.
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Post by The Quito Diet on Sept 7, 2020 12:09:47 GMT
How stupid do you have to be?
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Post by Today I feel Uruguay on Sept 7, 2020 12:43:06 GMT
A teenager on 50k a week stupid?
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Post by Today I feel Uruguay on Sept 7, 2020 22:14:12 GMT
I hope I live to see in my life time a Scotland manager who just uses the best players in their best positions and just roles with that.
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Post by Stu on Sept 8, 2020 17:36:48 GMT
Hard to be that interested in the England game with that starting 11..
Looks like its 7 at the back ffs
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Post by Heung-Min Pleat on Sept 8, 2020 18:11:16 GMT
That midfield is just mental, why does he never give JWP or Grealish a chance. Mount should be walking into that midfield too
Dier's spent the last year saying he wants to be a defender, him and Rice are basically the same player, haven't seen a lot of Phillips but he's spent a chunk of last season in defence aswell isn't he?
That is the least inspiring England midfield we will ever see I think. I thought the left back situation was stupid but fuck me
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Post by #FreeBTS on Sept 8, 2020 18:12:06 GMT
He literally started JWP the other day
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Post by Heung-Min Pleat on Sept 8, 2020 18:16:09 GMT
Okay soz not never but once
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Post by allah on Sept 8, 2020 18:38:11 GMT
Tbf, I'm totally fine with not starting JWP. It's the dropping him so we can play 2 DM's to make sure our 3 centre backs have enough cover that's the problem.
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Post by #FreeBTS on Sept 8, 2020 18:50:34 GMT
Yeah Dier’s not going to be playing in midfield I’m sure it’s 3 at the back
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Post by #FreeBTS on Sept 8, 2020 18:52:58 GMT
The left back situation is farcical though. Less than a year from a major tournament and we’re sticking Kieran Trippier there, just absolutely no point, like Shaw etc might not be great but at least you’ll find out something behind Chilwell
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