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Post by g7vikings on Jan 9, 2016 23:44:03 GMT
I think this is generating enough discussion for its own thread now. I think he did it tbh without question a whole load of shady shit happened, but I think it's a byproduct of the previous case. I think the key was planted, and some witnesses were coerced. However my view is that they needed to make it an absolute slam dunk, and what they had wasn't clear enough and he may have gotten to benefit of the doubt from the jury due to the past. If he done it, where did he do it? And why is there no trace of her dna anywhere? (Other than the bullet) There is no chance at all that he is bright enough to conduct a thorough clean up. I just think he shot her, not the whole he went knife crazy on her. Which is a lot easier for him to clean up, and I suspect it probably happened somewhere on the scrap yard. The only other reasoning I could come up with is someone framed him, probably someone from his family. The blood in the car is the big one, and the one thing that really makes me lean towards it was him. Since they proved it wasn't the blood from the vile, unless you're also going to entertain the notion that the FBI lab techs also have this massive campaign against him. So yeah, it was either him or the two that gave an alibi for each other in my opinion, and the blood makes me lean towards him. are you allowed to run such a poll? Someone tell me if you're not. I suppose it's not in great taste but...
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Post by jaffers on Jan 9, 2016 23:48:39 GMT
I think it's a fair poll tbh. I'm still leaning towards him, but Bobby and Scott are big question marks. I do think a lot of evidence was planted though, and without that and certain statements I think they'd have never had a case.
Feel so sorry for Brendan, he got played like a fucking fiddle.
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Post by AlexC on Jan 10, 2016 2:20:33 GMT
Don't like the brother at all. Smiling all the time what a sinister cunt. Also don't know how they put Brendan away for so long, so obvious that he is retarded and didn't really know what was going on.
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Post by Cashis on Jan 10, 2016 10:40:02 GMT
Not sure who did it but it's pretty obvious that evidence was planted. I don't get how you can lock someone up without being completely sure. And why would he make such a half arsed effort of covering it up? The blood thing was huge - that bird proved it was inconclusive and not fit for evidence and Ken Kratz (think that was his name) still quotes it in his closing statement. I also think the idea of a bunch of random punters rocking up to a courtroom and deciding someone's fate is farcical but that's another story.
Brother was a right weird cunt. Some of the questioning towards Steven and particularly Brendan was disgusting as well, found it hard to watch someone with special needs being essentially bullied and manipulated.
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Post by you give me rrrroad rrrrage on Jan 10, 2016 13:54:46 GMT
I don't think it could be a situation where one person did it. The whole thing looks like an institutional stitch up that was planned well in advance with the brother, the ex-boyfriend and the police all in on it for the precise reason that it would be so far-fetched that it would be nigh on impossible to prove in court.
Someone (or some people) was probably payed off in some way in order to make Teresa a suitable candidate to be the victim in the case.
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Post by Star of Spurs on Jan 10, 2016 14:31:50 GMT
only seen the first two episodes but from what i can tell it seems less of a "whodunnit" and more of a "look, even if they did it, how fucked up is this treatment"
could be completely wrong mind
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Post by g7vikings on Jan 10, 2016 15:39:57 GMT
Oh of course. Any excuse for a poll though...
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Post by you give me rrrroad rrrrage on Jan 10, 2016 16:37:15 GMT
Also, "guessing" the voicemail password is the single dodgiest part of the whole story.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2016 18:52:59 GMT
Can't believe they didn't question why he assumed it'd be something to do with her sisters. Logical excuse would be to say she told him her password, it looks like he's made something up that isn't even that believable.
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Post by Olivier on Jan 10, 2016 20:41:26 GMT
Couldnt give a shite about Avery. He probably did it. But I think the newphew is the true victim in it all. He was used as a cheap target. The bit where the guy is getting him to draw the pictures is outrageous. It's nuts. Once you look past the bullshit confession the only bit of evidence that links him is when he said they moved the car to the scrapyard Avery went under the hood (although I dont know why he would). And they found Avery's DNA in the hood latch. With everything else they planted it's not beyond doubt that that DNA wasn't planted there.
Even if he did assist Avery you can see how easily led he is and he has no idea how serious anything is. He's a victim whether he helped Avery murder/hide her either way.
The woman's brother is also suspicious purely for the fact he seemed 100% convinced by the evidence the rest of the world can see is obviously shite.
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Post by you give me rrrroad rrrrage on Jan 12, 2016 18:54:16 GMT
g7vikings can we add Steven's "girlfriend" from the last episode please? Who the fuck starts dating someone in prison. Also just noticed this but Ken Kratz sounds like he's got undescended testes.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2016 19:40:49 GMT
More like underage children in various poses on his computer.
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Post by MrAndyJay on Jan 13, 2016 14:41:46 GMT
Spoiler tags maybe... anyway, I'm watching this right now, just finished episode five...... {SPOILER}The bit with the cop on the stand with the lawyer asking about him calling dispatch about the license plate is just fucking amazing. That, plus it was him and the other guy.... Len is it?, that planted the key. That cop is a moron and a disgrace to Andrew's around the world. This is awesome. Up there with all the WM3 stuff.
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Post by Cashis on Jan 13, 2016 17:22:45 GMT
Killed a cat, didn't own underwear, I'm glad he's incarcerated.
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Post by Star of Spurs on Jan 15, 2016 0:56:04 GMT
WHY IS LEN KACHINSKY SO PUNCHABLE
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