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Post by Maskya Yoshida on Oct 25, 2015 22:37:14 GMT
Less than 1m people watch it live.
I imagine 10 million watched when my main man Button won
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Post by Pole Land on Oct 25, 2015 22:41:48 GMT
Well not every race is live on free-to-air TV anymore which doesn't help.
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Post by Maskya Yoshida on Oct 25, 2015 22:42:44 GMT
It being boring doesn't help.
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Post by Pole Land on Oct 25, 2015 22:45:03 GMT
2014 and 2015 have been better than several of the Vettel years.
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Post by danielbuggery on Oct 25, 2015 22:48:36 GMT
I'd love to see a year like 2009 again where the Honda team turned into Brawn and Jenson Button finally got his chance at a good car, partnered with the unhateable Rubens Barrichello, seeing McLaren and Ferrari stumble about... Then you get the Red Bull team out of nowhere becoming really good thanks to Newey and the last half of the season becomes a close fight after Brawn blew everyone away in the first half of the season.
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Post by Pole Land on Oct 25, 2015 22:50:46 GMT
Well that's kind of what we got last year with Mercedes. Everytime the rules change the order changes somewhat, so 2017 the next chance.
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Post by The Quito Diet on Oct 26, 2015 18:24:14 GMT
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Post by sween on Oct 27, 2015 16:38:15 GMT
2014 and 2015 have been better than several of the Vettel years. Like fuck.
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Post by Pole Land on Oct 27, 2015 16:50:50 GMT
2014 and 2015 have been better than several of the Vettel years. Like fuck. I said several, not all. 2011 and 2013 were awful. 2011 had 2/3 decent races tops and 2013 had about 1, if that.
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Post by you give me rrrroad rrrrage on Oct 27, 2015 22:06:00 GMT
This year has been fucking dross for the most part. Easily as bad as the Vettel years.
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Post by danielbuggery on Oct 27, 2015 22:13:17 GMT
I'd rather not see a third consecutive year of watching the whiney German fight with the obnoxious Brit.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2015 22:14:00 GMT
Ironically the best part of this season has been Vettel being better than Rosberg.
Honestly though we haven't had a good season since 2010. Every season has had a runaway leader. Even last year Hamilton wad so much better than Rosberg when his car wasn't shiting up every five seconds.
It's Lewis winning now so I don't mind. Him or Vettel at this point I'd like to win a few titles each but not Rosberg. Had his hand held through 2014 and fucked up.
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Post by The Quito Diet on Oct 27, 2015 22:32:54 GMT
Hamilton and Vettel as a double act are great though, always seem to be laughing and joking in interviews and the like; if Ferrari make the step up over the winter and those two are even closer then it'll be a hell of a battle next year.
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Post by Pole Land on Oct 27, 2015 23:49:59 GMT
This year has at least had individual races where it's been exciting though, even if the end result/world champion has been obvious for a while. I think the individual races this year have been better than 2014 but last season was better for the fact it went to the last weekend. Neither have been classics but much better than 2011 and 2013, in my opinion.
2010 was the best in recent history and 2012 at least had plenty of different winners and a great final race.
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Post by U R GAY on Oct 28, 2015 9:13:25 GMT
F1 is on its arse, regardless of who's winning imo. Needs a few years of good press instead of all the bad press, mostly brought about by Bernie Ecclestone. Declining attendances, declining viewing figures, lack of manufacturers wanting to take part, leaving loyal bases to chase desert money, stupid rule changes, teams and quality of drivers dying off; I'm pretty sure it will all continue to slide over the next few years.
I'd agree with Pestar, last 5 seasons have been fucking shite. Here's the telling indicator for me about how F1 has changed and why I struggle to put guys like Vettel and Hamilton up against F1 greats of the past like Prost, Senna, Schumacher and even as recent as Alonso - the car as an automatic machine has never felt more stronger to me, when I watch old races you can clearly see the quality of the driver have an influence on seconds on the circuit and ultimately places on the grid, I suppose you still see it now when you see how much better Hamilton is than Rosberg or Vettel is than Webber but it's still just one guy going away with no challenge. Most F1 for the last 5 years genuinely feels like watching cars do a procession lap for 90 minutes with the occasional overtake or racing incident.
That would bring me on to another major fault in that there is no spontaneity anymore in the coverage, it's all too professional, clean cut and boring. Give me the days of Murray Walker going wild and random graphics popping up all over the screen. The coverage, like the races, to me, both just feel sanitized and boring.
I got off point, so with that being said about the cars, I'm 100% sure that if Hamilton/Vettel, undisputedly the two best drivers on the grid at the moment had spent the last 5 seasons racing together in the 2nd best team on the grid, they would not have 5 world championships and 5 constructors titles between them but they'd have 0 and 0. That level of disparity between machine and ability having an affect makes the whole thing abit pointless to watch imo - when you're relying on machines failing and potentially putting people in danger of crashing for there to be any chance of the race becoming entertaining it becomes a fairly grim endeveour to keep watching...
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